INTERVIEWS


 

 

==== INTERVIEW FOR HELLRIDE MUSIC ====

The Spancer experience is one of pure Doomed heaviness mixed with groove-ridden interludes and inhuman vokills. There is enough all out low end to cause spontaneous bowel movements across continents. Hellride Music talks to the lads in Spancer who are a surprisingly happy lot considering the evil volume spewing forth from their first full length opus, Countdown to Victory.

HELLRIDE MUSIC: The Spancer musical experience is like being hit in the head with a brick....slowly. You guys combine a crushing brand of Doom with a bit of groove every now and then, combined with some of the most disturbing Acid-vocals I've ever heard... How has Spancer been accepted in your native Germany and beyond?

YORK: Well, actually we sell most of the CDs in the US, and we also managed to get a fistful of them to Japan which is really great. In Germany the interest is rather small, but we're working on it -- there have been few reviews, but some of them were really amazing! Especially from the international doom scene we got fantastic feedback. However, going beyond some freaks the music is probably too extreme -- I mean, we're a doom band after all...

HELLRIDE MUSIC: Give us a little history on the band...where did you guys meet, who's in the band?

YORK: Kaptain and me met in the local hardcore scene in the mid 90s and Markus was hanging around there as well.

KAPTAIN: And then we got along that well that we started some hot triple relationship!!!

YORK: Yeah, kinda...Jan and Kappe are from the same area as Kaptain, close to Braunschweig, and since most people move here after some time and there are lots of parties with people coming from the whole area we got to know each other, finding out we share a common worship of Saint Vitus and doom in general and so we started playing.

MARKUS: But I joined in later.

YORK: Yeah, first Kappe tried to sing, but it didn't turn out that cool, which is good 'cause it's the best thing that could happen to get the line up like it's now, which is Markus / voice, Kaptain & Kappe / Bass, me who is the coolest on guitar...

KAPTAIN: Well, more or less...

YORK: And Jan on drums...

MARKUS: He is the coolest !!

YORK: Yeah, actually Jan is the coolest.

KAPTAIN: He is a really cute one, you can take him by the ass from time to time, haha !!

YORK: Yeah, he's really cute and also made the greatest progress of all of us on a musical level.

HELLRIDE MUSIC: Nice. I'm glad you guys get on so well... *cough*. Speaking of assholes, who have you guys played with that stands out in your mind? Who were the cool bands and which ones were the assholes?

YORK: Well, Spirit Caravan were the most outstanding of course -- after we saw them on their first European tour we thought if we'd ever got to play with them we could break up, haha, however, we had to decide different now. But we played with a couple of cool bands -- Groinchurn, Hard To Swallow, and there were also Dukes Of Nothing on the Spirit Caravan - tour.

KAPTAIN: Dukes Of Nothing, drunken English bastards!

MARKUS: The Brazilian guys!

YORK: Oh yeah, Gangrena Gasosa -- an amazing band ! They mix extreme hardcore/grind/metal with South American percussion. They've been doing this for ten years and influenced Sepultura! But we actually didn't play with assholes...

HELLRIDE MUSIC: Give us a little bit on the making of Countdown to Victory... Where did you guys record the album and how long did it take?

YORK: The songs were born like all the others, too. We were standing in our rehearsal room and have been jamming...

KAPTAIN: And drinking beer!!

YORK: Then we entered the cheapest studio in town and spend eight days there, recording our four best songs to date. Unfortunately the studio wasn't that good, but we all are pretty poor doom dudes without a label and money !

HELLRIDE MUSIC: Countdown to Victory has four songs in 36 minutes...that's an average time of about 9 minutes a song. Do most of your songs come out of jam sessions? Many of the tunes on the album seem to stem from long jams which turned into songs. Even though the sound is heavy as fuck, there's a loose vibe in 'em.... would you agree?

MARKUS: Wow, they really realize it!

YORK: Yeah, I guess that kinda fits.

KAPTAIN: The music doesn't develop out of jamming exclusively, but many parts do.

MARKUS: We try to do something original, something of our own, more than just rocking.

KAPTAIN: I think we got something quite original in the doom scene even though many bands are similar to each other, like EyeHateGod and Cavity for instance, but we also got lot's of other influences.

YORK: Due to the many influences it turns out a bit different than other bands. And we also think about what we are playing, we think about the arrangements even though we usually let the songs write themselves! Of course we don't create a new style, I mean there definitely are bands around who are much more original, but I don't think we're copycats and the way we play is our own.

KAPTAIN: See, we're also listening to Chris Isaac!

MARKUS: And Neurosis!

YORK: Yeah, what amazing artists!! We try to create something special, but let it happen the way it turns out.

KAPTAIN: Also the songs aren't arranged the same way. On the new Down album, for instance, there are lot's of classic rock structures. We got those as well, but we also arrange differently.

YORK: Most of the time it's different, the classic rock arrangements are just short parts within a whole song.

HELLRIDE MUSIC: Germany has quite a doom scene with bands like Mirror of Deception, Dawn of Winter, Well of Souls, etc. But nobody really combines the death/doom thing like you guys.... what made you guys want to get into this vein of music?

YORK: That's just the way it turned out to be, due to our various influences.

KAPTAIN: I think, since we first played some Saint Vitus covers it kept close to this vein, but in general there's is a personal style in our own songs. And since the vocalist joined in later, the songs got a different approach after that.

YORK: Unlike these bands you mentioned we got less Power Metal influences, but I also don't think we combine doom and death, even though we listen to grindcore and death metal, but I don't see any parallels to Winter, for instance, who combined these styles perfectly. We're rather rock and this is just the way it turned out to be; it has just become much more heavy and dark because we listen to lots of extreme music, I guess. Also because of the vocals -- it could've been a melodic voice as well, and it then would've sounded completely different. But we like it the way it is!

MARKUS: The important aspect is the intensity!

YORK: Yeah, and this is not necessarily bound to extreme, heavy music.

KAPTAIN: It's not an aim to be as hard and extreme as possible or to say "there is no doom, so we play some".

YORK: We don't try to be heavy, we just are. Of course we think it's cool when we realize something turned out really fat, but that's not our aim, we just play like we feel.

HELLRIDE MUSIC: Who the hell writes the lyrics?! That some pretty intense shit....I mean on "Master File God" the deal is that you are "kissing God with your steel"...steel in this case meaning your sword. Other lyrics are centered on how war and hate and the doom of mankind... do you guys really feel this or is it something that you only express in your music?

KAPTAIN: We've been listening to Manowar too much!

MARKUS: Master File god is very ironic, of course.

KAPTAIN: No, I don't think so -- if Markus was standing on some holy mountain he'd definitely get out his sword immediately!

YORK: This is something you gotta realize, the lyrics are pretty obviously ironic. Usually Markus writes them, especially the apocalyptic, mystic ones.

KAPTAIN: Why the lyrics are so dark ? Because Markus grew up in Salzgitter, which is a totally fucked up shit place!!

YORK: Actually we are very humorous people, got lots of fun and don't run around melancholically all day long...

KAPTAIN: Yeah, and it's you whose girlfriend didn't run away 3 weeks ago!

YORK: Right, I got none at all !

MARKUS: There's not everything cool in the world, but it's also not without a way out.

KAPTAIN: To get to these philosophical aspects -- if you grow up somewhere and it's not that good, or even if it is, you somehow ask yourself what you actually are doing there. And with all these things happening being related to philosophical questions you can assimilate them. These can be political or social occurrences, for instance -- when I want to become a teacher and see what's happening in Erfurt (a school massacre) I ask myself what's going on there and why. And this feeling becomes a part of the songs, when playing them in the rehearsing room or live, it becomes a part of yourself. And sometimes I'm just into feeling depressed.

YORK: But that's a catharsis and these emotions get discharged through playing, something new is created. I personally experience the music as very positive, I'm happy most of the time, if not before, then after playing and I also consider the lyrics as positive even though they deal with dark topics. On the surface they're ironic and at the same time, but on a different level, they're philosophical. We got lots of fun with them and that's the way it's supposed to be, we are not into crying all day long -- when being together we want to have a good time, which definitely is the case and the lyrics reflect this. The topics are dark because there's a lot of shit happening around us, but you gotta take this with a big, fat grin in your face!!

HELLRIDE MUSIC: What role do drugs and alcohol play in Spancer if any?

KAPTAIN: (Pointing at his can of good ol' Beck's beer) : Since I live in Bremen now it's pretty easy for me (laughter) -- here, it says 1876, over there at you guys in Philadelphia.

YORK: Yeah, but I suppose the Yankee version is piss! Sorry to say, but we're used to the best beer in the world, aren't we!? But I guess for a doom band we're nearly straight edge.

KAPTAIN: During the last weeks I've actually been partying the whole time.

YORK: I'm saying for a doom band, compared to most other ones we're pretty easy going.

KAPTAIN: We got nothing in our veins!

YORK: Yeah well, THC gets into your blood as well, haha ! Partly we smoke weed or eat mushrooms, partly we get drunk, but usually it's beer, not whiskey!

KAPTAIN: Partly?

YORK: There's even one who stays clean -- at least we don't do any chemical stuff! Drugs play in this way a role in Spancer that we partly do write songs under the influence of them (but then it's just beer and weed), but we also like to stay sober here and there.

KAPTAIN: I like to drink beer during my leisure time...or maybe more, as well!

HELLRIDE MUSIC: What are you guys currently listening to?

YORK: Wu Chien Lien, that's Chinese canto-pop...

KAPTAIN: Oh, fuck you!

MARKUS: He gets us rid in shit again!

KAPTAIN: OK, first, something known in the US as well -- Dimple Minds ! (laughter -- that's a German drunk punk band)

YORK: I think we're supposed to tell what we're currently listening to -- the new Blind Guardian...

KAPTAIN: Oh shit ! The new Down and soccer scores.

MARKUS: High On Fire, Neurosis, Isis.

YORK: Colosseum live and the new Cavity.

KAPTAIN: Chris Isaac, the new Motorhead and the latest Johnny Cash.

MARKUS: Old Man Gloom and Hawg Jaw.

KAPTAIN: I've been listening to Electric Wizard again, and N.W.A.

YORK: Hey, if can listen to these hip hop ghetto dudes I can also listen to beautiful women from China! I've also been listening to Japanese percussion a lot.

MARKUS: Yeah, me too.

KAPTAIN: And Jimmy Smith, that's a jazz dude.

YORK: Yeah, some jazz, Cecil Taylor and John Zorn.

MARKUS: Warhorse! How could we forget them ?!

KAPTAIN: The latest Spancer of course ! (laughter)

YORK: Yeah, Spancer, and Hellblazer of course, a great grind band! (laughter, it's York's other band) Fantomas, Genocide SuperStars, Skit System, Fuck On The Beach and Spazz. Kappe listens to 80s metal, especially Exciter, Jan to lots of shit, especially Punk'n'roll and Mike Patton's entire career.

HELLRIDE MSUIC: Any plans to record or live gigs coming up?

YORK: Live gigs ? We'll play at some garden party in two months, haha!

KAPTAIN: And maybe in our rehearsing room in a week, together with Morser!

YORK: We're working on a new LP, maybe it's gonna be released some day, if we find someone who's willing to finance and release it. We'll record a demo for it soon, so get in touch if you're interested to hear it! However, we don't have that many gigs, nobody wants to see us here...

HELLRIDE MUSIC: Well that's all I have to ask. Thanks for the interview. Any last words?

YORK: Yeah, it looks like Bayern Muenchen won't be German soccer champion, which is fine, but I guess people in the US don't know that much about it...

KAPTAIN: I think it really sucks, that some Belgium piss brewery bought Beck's and now there are no taxes being paid to Bremen, which is a really poor city now and the beer somehow tastes different now.

YORK: I think it still tastes the same!

KAPTAIN: Yeah, they got different types now, the old one and a new which is supposed to be liked outside the Northern part of Germany as well.

YORK: The more you go down South the worse the beer, but as long as they still got the original one everything is fine !!

Interview by Chris Barnes, 5/9/02

 

==== INTERVIEW FOR PSYCHEDELIC FANZINE ====

 

PSYCHEDELIC: When did the band start playing under the name of Spancer, and who’s in the recent line-up of the band?

YORK: We started in early '99, with Kaptain & Kappe on dual bass attack, Jan on drums and me playing guitar, had no name at this time though. For the first gig 1/2 a year later we wrote Chandler on the flyer, but back then our vocalist Markus wasn't in the band yet -- we played two Saint Vitus covers sung by Kappe and instrumental versions of our very first two songs. We didn't keep the name though as we thought we couldn't play any show with Wino then, haha, and agreed on Spancer shortly after that.

PSYCHEDELIC: What kind of musical past do the members of the band have?

YORK: We are rooted in the underground hardcore scene, Ingo played in an emo band, haha !

KAPTAIN: Correct, but that was something different back then.

YORK: Yeah, the d.i.y. hardcore scene of the mid 90s -- lots of bands were crying back then, but still it wasn't that sad college rock that it is today.

MARKUS: We had a band as well -- Los Alamos.

KAPTAIN: We played crusty hardcorepunk -- and then also another band, kinda like older Neurosis, still having this hardcore touch.

MARKUS: ...which has developed into Blackspring now.

YORK: That's Markus' other band. I played in Satan Youth 3000, a powerviolence/crustpunk band and now I'm in Hellblazer -- that's seppuku weedgrind ! Jan played in Brutal Killing Bastards, punkrock...

KAPTAIN: And now in Francesco, they play retro punk'n'roll.

YORK: In former times he played Death Metal.

PSYCHEDELIC: Please tell us a few words about the band’s first musical offering entitled "Countdown To Victory".

KAPTAIN: Yeah, it's just a fact that the samples are a class of their own !

YORK: That's what I really regret about the record -- the samples are in German and most people don't understand them, but they are so fucking cool !

KAPTAIN: However, they are not of any interest to anyone like this -- people just think there's someone blabbing, but actually those are the coolest samples from movies like Das Boot, Bang Boom Bang and...

YORK: A Better Tomorrow.

KAPTAIN: These movies really should not be missed -- watch them all in a row !

YORK: About the cd you could say that we recorded our best four songs to date to get going with some proper stuff and enrich the world with fat rocking apocalypsedoom. We also received some fantastic reviews and so we got a solid debut which created a foundation to develop on and more cool shit to come.

KAPTAIN: Yeah, and then there'll be the next record some day which, I think we can tell this now, will be called Slow Down, Pleasure Up !

PSYCHEDELIC: What does motivate Spancer, not only as a band, but as individuals? Who would you cite as influences, both current and past?

YORK: Fucking life !

MARKUS: Stories written by life.

KAPTAIN: The motivation why everything is like it is ? Because we're totally thrilled by this shit !!

YORK: We just feel like it, that's what enriches our lives with good moments.

KAPTAIN: There're lots of aspects -- spending your time in such a cool way in the rehearsal room that you go outside afterwards and think, yeah, we achieved something. And also playing such extreme music that while playing it you actually don't even consider extreme, but utterly natural. Others might say, what are you guys playing there, but to me it's totally normal.

MARKUS: And everything around you; when experiencing something you assimilate it, especially in the lyrics, but also in the music.

YORK: What's really important is to live one's life fully, to use your potential which definetely is good for your mental state. And of course the desire just to write some cool music that we enjoy.

KAPTAIN: The common time we share, drinking some beers, going out in the evening and getting to know some beautiful woman who is also listening to this kind of music. (laughter)

YORK: Musical influences of course are all these crappy doom bands like Saint Vitus, EyeHateGod, Sleep...they fucking rule !

KAPTAIN: Cavity, Black Sabbath, Electric Wizard, High On Fire.

MARKUS: Warhorse, Hawg Jaw.

KAPTAIN: Chris Isaac, Black Sabbath.

YORK: Church Of Misery, Black Sabbath.

KAPTAIN: Black Sabbath.

YORK: Wino !!!

KAPTAIN: Led Zeppelin.

YORK: And beyond that we all listen to lotsa different stuff, extreme hardcore and metal...

KAPTAIN: What are these Death Metal dudes from Poland called, average age 19 ?

YORK: Decapitated.

KAPTAIN: Yeah, write that down -- but on the opposite also...Johnny Cash.

YORK: There really is lots of stuff, everyone listens to different bands, Jimi Hendrix as well as Neurosis, classic Chinese and Japanese music, hip hop etc. Kappe mainly listens to 80s metal though, especially Exciter.

MARKUS: A reason to suffer for the rest !

YORK: No no, they're pretty cool. And he also asked me to list Cirith Ungol, who -- I'd like to mention this -- had pretty much the greatest guitar solos in the classic metal scene, Savage Grace, Griffin, Manilla Road, Kryst The Conqueror, who he says fuckin' rule etc. Jan listens to lots of rock, Faith No More, Mr. Bungle, Fantomas, Melt-Banana -- I totally love the last three as well ! All these different aspects influence and motivate us in our daily lives and thus Spancer.

KAPTAIN: However, the direct influences are not rooted in these far-reaching musical tastes, at least not in my case, I guess I'm rather conservative when it's come to this.

YORK: But it still broadens your horizon and musical understanding and we don't primarily try to fulfill a certain genre, but play what's in our minds, even though we got different bands to play in for our different thoughts 'cause sometimes it's better to avoid mixing all styles of music as the single one can loose its own energy, especially doom.

PSYCHEDELIC: What is Spancer all about? Any message you’re trying to convey? What’s your goal with the band?

KAPTAIN: We want to rule the whole world, like Wu Tang -- we'll start the Spancer Cooperation !

YORK: We actually want to establish the doom version of Wu Tang.

KAPTAIN: Exactly ! Rule the whole world and then move to another planet where pink penguins are running around who say nothing, but...

YORK: Spancer, Spancer !!! (laughter)

KAPTAIN: And they drink nothing but Beck's !

YORK: We don't have a certain obvious message, it's just about using your time and potential and having a good time doing so.

KAPTAIN: That life actually is a total loss, but becomes much greater through music.

MARKUS: That pretty much is the only significant part -- making music.

YORK: At least for us as a whole. It's just that you take care of the things that mean something to you and use them. That doesn't necessarily need to be music and I also get lots of energy and improve my psyche from martial arts, like Markus does as well. What we try to reach actually is just having a good time and write some cool songs.

KAPTAIN: Turn around people's brains !

YORK: Yeah, and having fun while doing it ! And that once in a while there are people who think, oh my god, what's that, like our rehearsal room landlord... KAPTAIN (with a squeaky voice): "What kind of infernal noise is that !?!"

YORK: I mean, of course I want to tour Japan and play in the Mexican desert, but if it never happens, I had a fucking great time just by hanging out with my friends, celebrating doom -- I think that already is a lot, more than many people ever experience !

PSYCHEDELIC: Could you give us a synopsis of the lyrical content? Where do you draw inspiration from, and do you think that lyrics are an important part of the music?

KAPTAIN: Of course the lyrics fit the music, harmonize with it and are pretty important.

MARKUS: They are personal, partly from my own experiences, but still it's hidden, so that you don't really get the real meaning since they're very ironic.

YORK: They're in a way as important as the music since we definetely think about them and they also support the sound, but of course the band doesn't exist to write lyrics, but music.

KAPTAIN: The vocals are an instrument as well and if we wrote lyrics about the green lawn of Werder (that's the soccer club of Bremen) or some other shit it just wouldn't fit. Apart from that our thoughts are somehow like the lyrics are, that's a reason why we play this music.

YORK: We try to digest our thoughts in the lyrics. These are philosophical, about life, contemplating and analyzing what's happening around us.

MARKUS: Exactly, the influences are daily life and what you see and experience.

KAPTAIN: And also the music, you gotta say that. If I wasn't listening to all this shit I probably wouldn't play it. I don't mean to copy anything, but if I hadn't heard Iron Monkey some day I maybe wouldn't have got into this stuff. Then I could also play acoustic rock at the camp-fire : (singing) Hey, I'm so down, everything around me is so bad...(laughter)

YORK: On the surface the lyrics are totally ironic and differ from their actual meaning. We prefer writing lyrics about what we think is cool and that's stuff like kicking god in the ass and waving your sword through the air...

KAPTAIN: And how you get along on the wild sea !

YORK: And how you are a Chinese swordsman...

KAPTAIN: Smoking a fat jolly...

YORK: Getting fucking stoned while developing a new martial arts technique...

KAPTAIN: A new type of rice.

PSYCHEDELIC: How does a rehearsal of Spancer look like? What kind of concept do you have for songwriting?

KAPTAIN: Long !!! Long distance runner from Iron Maiden.

YORK: The rehearsals are like this -- we get together, some smoke weed, some drink beer...

MARKUS: Some nothing !

YORK: Some nothing, and then someone starts playing, comes up with a new riff, the rest joins in and so the songs develop.

KAPTAIN: One way being that someone comes up with certain ideas, another being that we just jam, sometimes that we don't know what to do and drink another beer and ask the drummer.

YORK: Exactly, cause he plays guitar and bass better than the actual bassists and guitarist.

KAPTAIN: Our last aid !

YORK: We don't have a certain concept, but let the songs write themselves -- a good song must fit to itself and not fulfill some schema, even though we think about what we're playing and try out several ways of arrangement. But after all it comes down to what we feel.

KAPTAIN: Having a boner all the time.

PSYCHEDELIC: What kind of equipment and instruments do the members of the band play?

YORK: Drums, guitar, bass...

KAPTAIN: Wooden instruments ! (laughter) Warwick amplification, 400 watts, 4*10 and 1*15 speakers.

YORK: Kappe got an old Peavey amp, the same as Paul Speckman.

KAPTAIN: By the way, also the guy from Minor Threat.

YORK: And the same Ibanez bass as Sexy T, which he was endorsing -- he is Sexy K now ! Actually we just need stuff to get a low and fat sound.

KAPTAIN: It's just about getting our guitarist down on his knees !

YORK: I got a POD now, set on the FuzzFace.

KAPTAIN: Big Muff !

YORK: Some pedals, but we don't have the big money to buy some nice Sunn amps, Gibson guitars and the best vintage effects. We just play...rock instruments.

KAPTAIN: Which drum set does Jan have ?

YORK: Tama -- yeah, he got some nice kit now, but second hand of course.

KAPTAIN: Zildjian, only thick cymbals.

YORK: Yeah, he uses a ride as a crash now, pretty loud and noisy.

MARKUS: I got a Shure SM 58.

KAPTAIN: Ibanez Roadster bass.

YORK: I actually have a nice Hamer Special, but in Spancer I play a Flying V (by Epiphone of course) 'cause it's a definite bluesrock guitar and symbolizes Saint Vitus !!!

PSYCHEDELIC: What were your most memorable concerts as Spancer, and why?

YORK: Spirit Caravan !

KAPTAIN: Yeah, that was the coolest.

MARKUS: It also was quite intimate, pleasently friendly. I wasn't that much involved in it before, but I thought there is this old bloke who has been playing somewhere sometime, but if you get to know him he's a really cool person, got his feet on the ground !

YORK: Yeah, on a personal level this probably was kinda the coolest show, I mean, playing with your hero and he isn't an arrogant fuck up, what more could you ask for -- by the way, sorry to Sherman and Gary for just talking about Wino, but I guess they're used to it...Hard To Swallow and Groinchurn were really cool as well. On the other hand I think the coolest experiences were driving to another town together, Leipzig for instance, hanging around all day long and do some hot rocking in the evening. But unforetunately we don't have that many gigs, so there isn't that much to tell.

PSYCHEDELIC: What are your plans for the next 6 months with Spancer?

YORK: We'll play at some garden party !

MARKUS: To write more songs.

KAPTAIN: We need longer songs, drink more beer, getting even more extreme and rock even more !

YORK: Completing the new songs for the new lp, and hopefully find someone who's willing to finance it, 'cause we can't do it again -- we're fucking broke. Oh yeah, and I'd also like to play in the desert of Mexico...

KAPTAIN: With Brujeria !

MARKUS: Meeting Carlos Castaneda !

YORK: Is he still alive actually ?

PSYCHEDELIC: What would you like to tell the readers, if you got the possibility to tell them anything?

YORK: Not a lot, do we ? ALL: Oh yes -- Spancer fucking kick your ass !!

YORK: Seriously, what could we say ?

MARKUS: Something ingenious !

YORK: That's the problem... KAPTAIN (moaning): Oh, we'd love to get some gigs so much...the important aspect, when someone reads the lyrics or watches us, is that you have to save your ass, getting out of all the shit.

YORK: That you get up your ass and do something.

KAPTAIN: Exactly, getting energy out of it. By playing music for instance, like we do, or other people play...chess (laughter) or something else. That even though there is all this depressive shit around you, and that's true, just have a look at the weather, that you still are courageous enough to do something, that's really important.

MARKUS: Yeah, getting something going. Not only following others, but starting something of your own.

YORK: To use your potential.

KAPTAIN: And combine all these things that you do, like we do with the music, thoughts, riffing, so that something special turns out, like Spancer. To create something out of what you think and feel. This can be art, music, certain movements of the body like tai chi, also basketball or football (soccer), whatever.

MARKUS: And you all should be reading much more !

YORK: Exactly ! You gotta try to find out about all these different things in the whole wide world. There's so much you can do, explore and learn from that it's really sad when you don't try to broaden your horizon, but listen to the same music all day long, playing Playstation and staying mentally limited and deadlocked.

KAPTAIN: You just gotta get up your ass and that's why we do all this shit. I personally also draw power out of depression, therefore I play music. If I'm really down I listen to Neurosis and when I'm totally fucked up Iron Monkey 'cause they're not that sad, but reflect this mood and then I get my ass up again.

YORK: Yeah, that's a real kick and this motivates and then you can create something new.

MARKUS: And if we maybe do this for other people as well, that's something really special of course !

KAPTAIN: But if people kill themselves that ain't too bad either.

YORK: There are too many anyway ! (laughter)

PSYCHEDELIC: How can the fans reach you (please list both contact addresses!), and what kind of merchandise do you have for sale?

YORK: Well, we planned to do some t-shirts, already got a design, but we couldn't get them manufactured as we got no money.

KAPTAIN: Yeah, but we'll definetely do it...ok, we got cups, socks, can openers...

YORK: Condoms...

KAPTAIN: Condoms, underwear, vibrators...

YORK: Martial arts sticks, short and long, plectrums, I got my own series that I endorse...

KAPTAIN: Yeah, and especially weapons -- the new Smith&Wesson is called Spancer !

MARKUS: Double-barrelled !!!

YORK: You best write to me as the others are fuck ups ! I'm as well, but I have to take care of everything...York Wiese / Schubertstr. 3 / 38114 Braunschweig / Germany...preparetodoom@tiscalinet.de... I'll be moving in october, but I'll still get letters, however, it's probably better if you use e-mail. If I don't answer I didn't receive it. You can also reach Kaptain through spancer@gmx.at...thanx a lot !!! Long live the slow !!!

 

INTERVIEW by Hegedus Mark, 2002

==== NONPUBLISHED INTERVIEW====

Sascha: Seit wann gibt es denn die Band, wie alt seid Ihr so und wie hat sich das
ganze entwickelt?

(Wir sitzen vor'm Radio und hoeren Meisterschaftskonferenzschaltung. Anwesend
sind Markus/Stimme, Kaptain/Bass und York/Gitarre.)

YORK: Das Ganze fing damit an, dass Kappe (unser einer Basser) und ich uns
auf 'ner gemeinsamen Fahrt zum Anthrax - Konzert nach Berlin kennenlernten,
auf darauffolgenden Parties die ganze Zeit über Musik laberten und
feststellten, dass hier und da gewisse Ueberschneidungen bestanden. Ich selber
hoere im Gegensatz zu ihm, der 80er Metaller durch und durch ist, jedoch noch
einige andere Sachen und wollte ihm eigentlich dann bloss ein paar Sachen
vor'n Latz knallen, die er bestimmt nicht geil finden konnte und meinte dann,
als wir uns über die Maengel der Rock Hard Enzyklopaedie ausliessen, da wuerden
ja auch Saint Vitus fehlen -- in der festen Annahme, er faend die total
scheisse. Zu meiner Ueberraschung kam dann jedoch ein "ja, stimmt, das sind die
Geilsten" und so fing eine Zeit der gemeinsamen Vergoetterung an. Bei 'nem
Konzert von Dandruff Deluxe meinte ich dann ganz spontan zu Kaptain, "hey, ich
mache 'ne Saint Vitus - Coverband!" -- "alles klar, ich bin dabei" --
"cool, Kappe muessen wir auch noch dazunehmen" -- "ja, dann haben wir zwei
Baesse" -- "Cooool". Beim Feiern danach war dann Jan in der Naehe und somit
wurde beschlossen, dass er jetzt mit Schlagzeugspielen anzufangen habe --
Saint Vitus - Songs sind ja auch recht einfach, da war das für den Anfang ganz
gut, haha. Am naechsten Morgen habe ich dann Kappe angerufen, er war hin und
weg, sprach von Gedankenuebertragung und meinte, er haette mich eh fragen
wollen, ob wir nicht 'ne Doomband gruenden wollten.
Das war Anfang '99 -- wir sind jetzt 23 - 27, damals also fuer 'ne Doomband
eigentlich ziemlich jung. Dann haben wir ein paar Songs gecovert, waren die
ganze Zeit besoffen und (teilweise) bekifft, hatten 'ne Menge Spaß und haben
irgendwann...was ? Tor ? Tor fuer Leverkusen -- jawoll, damit liegt Bayern
schonmal nicht vorne !! Ach ja, wir haben dann irgendwann Sleep 's Jerusalem
gehoert und wollten dann eigene Songs schreiben.

KAPTAIN: Bethlehem, 53 Minuten lang !!

YORK: Ja, wir hatten bloss keinen Gesang dafuer und mussten dann dummerweise
Markus dazunehmen.

KAPTAIN: Kappe wollte ja singen.

YORK: Stimmt, der hat die Saint Vitus - Songs gesungen, auch ganz
ordentlich, aber das hat bei den eigenen nicht so hingehauen. Dann kam Kaptain
also an und meinte, hey, ich kenne da noch wen, und jetzt sind wir alle
gluecklich.

MARKUS: Ja, mir wurde da so'n verranztes Tape auf 'ner Party gegeben...

YORK: ...und das war Dir zu langsam.

MARKUS: Das war mir eindeutig zu langsam !

YORK: Aber mittlerweile sind wir Dir fast schon zu schnell.

MARKUS: Naja, aber ich dachte, da kann man Einiges mit machen.

YORK: Hat sich halt etwas schneller entwickelt...

MARKUS: Ganz schoen schnell, aber dreckig gut !

Sascha: Doom, wie Ihr ihn spielt, ist sicherlich eine sehr amerikanische
Musik. Was sagen denn die deutschen Fans zu Eurer Musik? Wie sieht es
bei Euch in der Umgebung aus?

YORK: Naja, wir haben hier ungefaehr so'n knappes Dutzend Fans.

KAPTAIN: Außer uns selber !

YORK: Ja, ausser uns...

MARKUS: Ein Dutzend nur ?

YORK: Ja, so etwa -- ein Dutzend ist doch gut !

KAPTAIN: Das liegt daran, wenn die die Musik hoeren, fallen sie alle tot um,
deshalb haben wir keine richtigen Fans.

MARKUS: Und weil die alle tot umfallen, ist hier in der Gegend auch nix
los.

KAPTAIN: Richtig, das ist alles Schutt und Asche, und wir ernaehren uns nur
von Bier und Ziesen.

YORK: Ja, aber wir spielen wohl schon recht amerikanische Musik, aber es
gibt ein paar Leute hier, die finden uns ganz geil und denen ist das wohl auch
egal, ob wir deutsch oder amerikanisch klingen.

KAPTAIN: Ich denke mal, es ist eigentlich egal, ob amerikanisch oder ...

(Radiosprecher: Roque Santa Cruz blablabla...)

YORK: Oh scheisse, Bayern hat ein Tor erzielt...

KAPTAIN: Ja, aber wichtig ist eigentlich der Stil und die Musik, die
ziemlich langsam ist, von daher gibt's da auch wenig Fans.

YORK: Ja genau, aber es macht halt Spaß, sie zu spielen und zu hören.

KAPTAIN: Die Leute, die es hoeren, finden 's vielleicht nicht alle gut, aber
sagen schon, dass es recht abgefahrene Musik ist.

YORK: Bis auf dieses Dutzend, die 's richtig geil finden, aber darueber
hinaus kommen wir wahrscheinlich eh nicht !

Sascha: Was ich bei Euch recht faszinierend finde ist, daß Ihr trotz derber
Vocals und durchgehend slower Songs immer soetwas wie eine
Grundeingaengigkeit habt, die sogar recht mitreißend wirkt. So 1970er
Hardrock durch den Wolf gedreht. Was sind Eure Einfluesse. Denkt Ihr, daß
Ihr Euch vom Rest der Szene abhebt?

KAPTAIN: Einfluesse ? Michael Jackson, Depeche Mode.

YORK: Tja, also ich hoere halt seit vorgestern eigentlich nur noch
chinesischen Canto-Pop.

KAPTAIN: Das ist echt schlecht -- Du frisst auch nur noch Reis und
Bambussprossen, sonst nichts !

MARKUS: York ist auch bald draussen !

KAPTAIN: Ich denk mal, dass wir eigentlich alle mit HardcorePunk angefangen
haben, so seit '89, also ich jedenfalls...

YORK: Ja, bis auf Kappe, der ist unser Metaller...

KAPTAIN: Der hört True Metal, dass einem die Eier abfallen...

MARKUS: Schrecklich !

YORK: Der Rest hat HardcorePunk - Roots. Wobei ich noch anmerken muss,
dass wir alle, wenn auch in unterschiedlichen Ausmaßen, Metal der
verschiedensten Arten hoeren, von Manowar bis Death/Grind, auch manche
klassischen Bands der 80er.

KAPTAIN: Aber wer Punk und Hardcore hoert, der kommt auch nicht an Saint
Vitus vorbei !

YORK: Genau, und dann findet man auch EyeHateGod gut, und Iron Monkey und
Sleep...

KAPTAIN: Cavity ! Und dann muss man da weiter nachforschen und findet auch
die alten Platten von den Eltern gut und das ist dann Black Sabbath...naja,
die haben wir natürlich schon vorher gehoert.

YORK: Und dann stellt man fest, dass bei Muttern zu Hause Iron Butterfly steht.

KAPTAIN: Oder Uriah Heep, Led Zeppelin -- die findet man dann auf einmal
richtig geil !

YORK: Ja, das ist das Lustige, weil man einige Jahre vorher dann doch
meinte, "Hard Rock ? O Gott o Gott", aber da sind schon geile Sachen dabei. Ob
wir uns von anderen Bands abheben ?

KAPTAIN: Abgesehen davon, sind wir auf jeden Fall total abgehoben !

YORK: Ja, wir sind voellig abgehoben -- also, wir klingen wahrscheinlich
nicht so anders als einige amerikanische Bands, aber doch anders als deutsche,
weil die eher so im power metalligen Doombereich sind, waehrend wir ja so
extremen Rock spielen.

MARKUS (zu Ingo): Jetzt musst Du aber auch Deinen Satz sagen !

KAPTAIN: Haeh, was fuer'n Satz ?

MARKUS: Na, dass Spancer alle aufbocken !

YORK: Jaaa !

KAPTAIN: Oh, Spancer bocken auch alle auf !!

YORK: Das haben wir mal beim Websurfen im Vollsuff an Soulpreacher
geschrieben, natuerlich auf deutsch, aber nie 'ne Antwort erhalten.
Wahrscheinlich gibt's nicht so viel Bands von hier, bei denen das auf die
gleiche Art zu Stande gekommen ist wie bei uns, deshalb klingt's anders. In
Amerika sind auch mehr Bands mit Hardcore Background.

Sascha: Gibt es da ueberhaupt eine Szene? Regional? Ueberregional?

YORK: Welche Szene ?

KAPTAIN: Ich denke mal, dass wir in Deutschland eigentlich mit keiner Band
wirklich Kontakt haben, also aus der Doomszene. Deshalb finden die Konzerte
mehr so vor Leuten statt, die halt Grind und Death hoeren, die das dann
eventuell gut finden. Die Hardcoretucken ja eh nicht...

YORK: Eben, hier bei uns sind wir eh nur mit DeathGrindern zusammen, und
ueberregional spielen wir nicht.

KAPTAIN: Das ist wie so'n Stinktier, das sein Revier hat. Wir sind hier fuer
Norddeutschland zustaendig, darueber hinaus passiert gar nichts.

MARKUS: Wir scheissen 'nen Haufen, aber keiner sieht's.

YORK: Naja, vielleicht ergibt es sich ja, dass wir mal hier und da noch
spielen.

KAPTAIN: Unser Sound ist wie scharfer Urin...wie Spargelpisse !!

YORK: Das waere halt schon geil, auch mal mit anderen Doombands zu spielen,
selbst wenn die mehr diesen melodisch melancholischen Gesang haben...ist ja
auch geil, wenn bei 'nem Konzert nicht alle Bands gleich klingen !

(Radiosprecher: Otto Addo trifft den Pfosten, es bleibt hier beim 1:1...)

ALLE: Ohh, naja gut...

Sascha: Wie sehen bei Euch die Konzerte aus? Habt Ihr viele Gigs? Wie ist der
Fanzuspruch?

KAPTAIN: Gigs ? Was für gigs ?

YORK: Wir haben leider kaum gigs -- eigentlich war bisher fast jeder
Auftritt selber organisiert, aber das koennen wir nicht so mehr so gut machen,
weil das dann immer mit Bands wie Hard To Swallow, Groinchurn oder Spirit
Caravan war, für die ich Konzerte organisiert habe, was ich aber nicht mehr so
mache.

KAPTAIN: Wie viele Auftritte hatten wir denn eigentlich ?

YORK: Oohh, frag doch nicht so was Schwieriges -- ich glaube, so ca.
sieben. Der Frauenzuspruch ? Wir können uns leider kaum retten...

KAPTAIN: Unmengen !

YORK: Joey DeMaio hat auch mal erklaert, bei Manowar seinen so viele Frauen
auf den Konzerten, weil der Bass-Sound (also er selber) so unglaublich sei.
Wir sind mit unserem doppelten Bassangriff da natuerlich noch viel geiler,
deshalb kommen auch so viele Frauen zu uns...hm, kennen wir eigentlich eine
Frau, die unsere Musik gut findet ?

MARKUS: Aber um die Frauenfrage zu heben, haben wir halt Jan in der Band !

YORK: Ja, das ist unser...aeh, suesser Boy, fuer 'nen Doommusiker viel zu
huebsch...

MARKUS: Engelchen !

YORK: Mittlerweile ja leider nicht mehr, die Haare sind ab...einfach ab.

KAPTAIN: Aber mit dieser Frage werden wir hier doch beschissen !

YORK: Neh, ich glaube es ging mehr um Fanzuspruch, nicht um Frauen.

KAPTAIN: Achso, haben wir auch keine !

YORK: Wir sind eigentlich selber unsere groessten Fans...

KAPTAIN: Es geht aber auch nicht darum, Musik zu machen, um Fans zu
haben...

MARKUS: Genau !!

YORK: Bei Konzerten haben wir bisher eigentlich ziemlich wenige Leute
begeistern koennen, aber die paar wenigen, die's gut fanden, waren dann auch
richtig beeindruckt. Die Platte ist bisher recht gut angekommen, somit geht's
eigentlich.

Sascha: Was sind denn Eure Lieblingsbands? Saint Vitus ist nicht schwer zu
erraten, was denn sonst noch? Gebt mal die Top 10 Faves an, wenn Ihr
soetwas habt.

YORK: Saint Vitus ? Die mag keiner von uns...also ich mag halt Wu Chien
Lien...

KAPTAIN: Oh Mann, der Japanscheiss wieder...

YORK: Nehneh, das ist 'ne Chinesin ! Die Einfluesse haben wir ja vorhin
schon genannt...

KAPTAIN: Black Sabbath hoeren wir natürlich auch !

YORK: Und dann so'ne Sachen wie Brutal Truth, Discordance Axis...

MARKUS: Neurosis !

YORK: Jaaa, die natuerlich -- das waere fast sowas wie meine absolute
Lieblingsband, wenn's die geben muesste !

KAPTAIN: Da habe ich heute nacht von getraeumt, dass die die neue Platte
draussen haben.

YORK: Die findet sogar Kappe gut, was sehr ungewoehnlich ist -- er hoert
ansonsten Exciter, hm, Exciter, und aeh,..., Exciter !

KAPTAIN: Und den Koenig !

MARKUS: Also, EyeHateGod, Isis, Iron Monkey...

ALLE: Oh ja, Iron Monkey !

YORK: Jetzt darf Ingo mal !

KAPTAIN: Ja, den Eisenaffen natürlich, dann Motorhead und aeh, Dimple Minds
! (Gelaechter)

YORK: Man koennte halt sagen, alles Moegliche aus'm extremen Hardcore und
Metal, in der Quintessenz also Rock, und so diversen anderen Krams.

KAPTAIN: Black Flag, die sind auch gut, aber das ist ja fast wie Dimple
Minds !

YORK: Das ist ja klar -- wir hoeren halt alle sehr viele unterschiedliche
Sachen, der eine oder andere hoert Hip Hop, Jazz oder Blues, klassische
chinesische und japanische Musik...

KAPTAIN: Ja, Du vielleicht !

YORK: Ja, ich, jeder halt was anderes ! Gibt's noch irgendwas anderes, dass
wer von uns hoert ?

KAPTAIN: Aeh, Johnny Flash, neh, Cash ! Chris Isaac und Sade...

YORK: Yep, Chris Isaac...und die James Bond Soundtracks ! Jan hoert viel
Punkrock und alles von und mit Mike Patton -- Fantomas und Mr. Bungle sind
natuerlich auch extrem geil !

Sascha: Was erlebt man denn so als Doommusiker für Dinge im Laufe der Zeit?
Schoene Dinge, schlechte DInge, lustige Begebenheiten, erzaehlt es uns ruhig,
wir können schweigen wie ein Grab, hehehe!

YORK: Naja, man ist ja die ganze Zeit besoffen und bekifft...

MARKUS: Ich nicht !

KAPTAIN: Was haben wir denn für 'ne lustige Begebenheit ? Also vielleicht,
dass wir dann mal ganz geile Riffs 'ne dreiviertel Stunde gespielt haben, von
wegen Children Of Doom.

MARKUS: Also ich fand Leipzig toll !

YORK: Ja, wegen des Essens -- die haben da ein wahnsinns veganes
Festessen aufgefahren. Beim Fruehstueck haette ich am liebsten ein ganzes Arsenal
an Tupperdosen gehabt, um alles einzupacken ! In Halle auch ! Das waren die
beiden einzigen Auswaertskonzerte, die wir bisher hatten...

KAPTAIN: Auswaertssieg ! (Gelaechter)

MARKUS: Wir haben in Halle gespielt ?

YORK: Das war das letzt Konzert, das wir gepielt haben, du Penner !

MARKUS: Ach das, ja, da gab's lecker Kekse und so !

KAPTAIN: Was haben wir denn so Geiles erlebt ? Wir hatten 'nen Igel bei uns
im Proberaum...und deshalb war er auch nackig und voll im Arsch !

YORK: Stimmt, den haben wir rausgesetzt, und der kam voll nicht mehr klar.

KAPTAIN: War das gerade ein Tor ?

YORK: Das war doch Wolfsburg -- scheiße, Schalke verliert schon wieder !

KAPTAIN: Stuttgart -- die muessen gewinnen, dann kommt Werder in 'n Uefa
Cup...gruen geile Scheisse !!

YORK: Als wir dann unseren aktuellen Proberaum bezogen haben, kam dann
gleich am ersten Tag, waehrend wir noch gar nicht wirklich angefangen haben und
nur die Baesse so'n bißchen vor sich hin klimperten, der Vermieter rein und
meinte : "Also Jungs, lange geht das hier wohl nicht gut mit uns, ich weiß ja
nicht, was ihr hier macht, aber so'n infernalischen Krach habe ich ja noch nie
gehoert !" Man beachte auch die seltsame Form, in der er das so gar nicht
existierende Wort "infernal" benutzte. Und Kappe lag in der Ecke und lachte
sich voellig schlapp !

KAPTAIN: Der Typ, also der Vermieter, sieht aus wie Oliver Bierhoff und
lispelt !

YORK: Aber so viel passiert da eigentlich nicht, ausser dass wir immer aus
Proberaeumen rausfliegen, weil keiner die Miete bezahlt.

MARKUS: Ist alles viel zu langsam.

YORK: Ja eben, das fliesst alles an uns vorbei...

Sascha: Was sind Eure naechsten Plaene?

KAPTAIN: Auf jeden Fall Haus bauen !

YORK: Ja, Familie, Kinder...'nen sicheren Job...

KAPTAIN: 'Ne geile Alte ! Den Arsch retten wuerde ich sagen, und
durchkommen, bis wir vom Sattelschlepper ueberrollt werden !

MARKUS: Erleuchtet !

YORK: Ja, ich moechte auch gerne mal...aeh, erleuchtet werden ! (Gelaechter)

KAPTAIN: Ich denke, auf musikalischer Ebene sollten die Songs viel laenger
werden !

YORK: Ich moechte eigentlich nach der naechsten Platte 'ne Doppel LP, 100
Minuten mit vier Songs aufnehmen ! Aber im Moment schreiben wir halt 'ne neue
LP, wenn wir dann vielleicht auch wen finden, der das finanziert. Selber
koennen wir das nicht mehr, weil wir pleite sind.

KAPTAIN: Ich halte ja nicht viel von pulverigen Drogen, aber ich haette
Bock, mal mit Ralle Richter 'nen ordentlichen Abend zu verleben !

YORK: Stimmt ! Und es waere natürlich geil, wenn mal 'ne coole amerikanische
oder japanische Doomband auf Tour kaeme und wir da ein paar Konzerte mitspielen
koennten !

KAPTAIN: Ja, 'ne Japan Tour waere geil, mit Ralf Richter spoken words.

YORK: Ich wuerde gerne auf Japan Tour und da mit allen geilen Bands zusammen
spielen -- Church Of Misery, Melt-Banana, Zeni Geva, Corrupted, Boris...

KAPTAIN: Mit Corrupted auf jeden Fall, da koennen wir mal 'ne ordentliche
Schnarchtour machen.

Sascha: Wie geht bei Euch denn das Songwriting vonstatten? Ich kann mir
vorstellen, daß es eine sehr hypnotische Angelegenheit sein muss, bei
Euch im Proberaum zu stehen. Mal ehrlich, vergisst man sich nicht haeufig,
wenn man in einen tranceartigen Spielrausch geraet?

KAPTAIN: Naja, die letzten Proben waren eher nuechtern, da muessen wir mal
wieder gegensteuern !

YORK: Die Anfangsproben mit Saint Vitus - Songs waren eigentlich viel
besoffener, in letzter Zeit waren wir eigentlich viel zu nuechtern. Jan kifft
auch kaum noch, da bin ich jetzt fast der Einzige.

KAPTAIN: Stellen wir die Frage mal um: " Was haltet ihr von Drogen ?"

MARKUS: Gar nix !

YORK: Kommt drauf an...

KAPTAIN: Der eine hier nicht, aber die anderen schon !

YORK: Ja, aber er wird mittlerweile neugierig, was so spirituelles Zeugs
angeht, Meskalin und Pilze. Das Songwriting ist eigentlich so aehnlich...

KAPTAIN: Ach deswegen bringst Du immer so'n Quatsch an, oder was !?

YORK: Also einer von uns bringt immer ein Riff an...

MARKUS: York bringt immer die Toene...

YORK: ...und die anderen machen 'nen richtigen Rhythmus draus ! Irgendwer
von uns drei Saiteninstrumentalisten bringt ein Riff an und dann spielen wir
drauf los.

KAPTAIN: Es gibt eigentlich auch nie so'n Loch, dass wir da rumhaengen, uns
faellt nix ein, was machen wir jetzt.

YORK: Wenn das mal der Fall ist, greift Jan zur Gitarre und schreibt in
zwei Minuten ein geiles Riff !

MARKUS: Es wird halt schon gejammt.

YORK: Es wird auf jeden Fall gejammt, wir stehen da so im Proberaum und je
nachdem wie besoffen oder bekifft der Einzelne ist, driftet man da auch mal in
andere Sphaeren ab. Vor allem natuerlich, wenn die Songs sich gut entwickeln,
die sind dann natuerlich der Hauptgrund ! Oder machst Du das auch, Markus ?

MARKUS: Was ?

YORK: In andere Sphaeren abdriften.

MARKUS: Ja, aber ohne Drogen ! (Gelaechter)

Sascha: Eure Texte sind ja wahnsinnig duester, verbreiten eine fuerchterliche
Endzeitstimmung, die zur Musik recht gut passt. Erlaeutert doch mal die
Inhalte genauer. Geht es bei "Receive my Firestorm" nicht um einen der
dummen Menschheit ueberdruessigen Gott, der Zerstoerung ueber die Welt
bringt? Seid Ihr persönlich religioes?

KAPTAIN: In erster Linie geht's ja um Gott, Seefahrt und die Zerstoerung der
Erde !

YORK: Aber mit Schwertern !

MARKUS: Ja, der Inhalt der Texte ist halt duester, aber nicht auswegslos !
Bei "Receive My Firestorm"...

KAPTAIN: Tor ?

(Radiosprecher: Der 1.FC Kaiserslautern ist zurueck...)

KAPTAIN: Nein...aehh, 3:3 schon !

YORK: 3:3 ? Das heisst, Werder ist draussen.

KAPTAIN: Neh, wenn sie verlieren.

MARKUS: Es geht halt nicht um einen Gott, sondern um mich. Es ist schwer zu
sagen, wovon die Texte handeln. Sicherlich sind sie auch ein bisschen
genreerfuellend, deswegen auch die Zusammenstellung der Texte, Fotos, Cover,
Name. Sie sind aber schon tiefsinnig, das soll jedoch im Dunkeln bleiben, denn
was im Nebel ist, ist interessanter als das Gesagte.

KAPTAIN: Also es geht eigentlich auch darum, dass wir mit Religion nicht
viel anfangen koennen.

YORK: Naja, wir wollen halt auch unseren Spaß haben, die Texte sind auf
'ner oberflaechlichen Ebene hoechst ironisch...

KAPTAIN: Erotisch !

YORK: Erotisch sind sie sowieso, und wir lachen uns auch immer voellig
schlapp, wenn wir die lesen, aber es haengt trotzdem tiefere Philosophie
dahinter ! Versteckt halt, man wird das nicht so feststellen -- wir haben
auch schon 'ne email gekriegt, in der es hieß, die Texte seien voellig scheisse,
aber das finden wir halt nicht !

KAPTAIN: Ich denke, jeder kann da auch was eigenes rausziehen...die Texte
koennen einen weiterbringen. Wenn jemand auf'm Hochhaus steht und dann 'n
Schritt weiter. (Gelaechter)

MARKUS: Das i-Tuepfelchen zur Musik, die untermalen das noch.

(Radiosprecher: Tor in Stuttgart, 4:3 fuer den VFB)

KAPTAIN: Geil, Werder ist drin !

YORK: Es sind eben so lebensphilosophische Fragen und Angelegenheiten, die
auf tiefsinniger Ebene ziemlich persoenlich sind, Verarbeitungen diverser
Probleme, wie man sich so durch's Leben schlaegt, aber auch auf einer
motivierenden Ebene. Ob wir persoenlich religioes sind ?

KAPTAIN: Neh, ueberhaupt nicht, finde ich total scheisse !

YORK: Es gibt natuerlich so diese ueblichen existenziellen Fragen...

KAPTAIN: Das ist ja logisch !

YORK: ...aber religioes im Sinne von organisierter Religion, wie z.B. dem
Christentum, was ja in Doomkreisen mitunter recht verbreitet ist (da moechte
ich mal die allgemeine Frage stellen : warum ?), sind wir ueberhaupt nicht.
Aber zumindest Markus und ich beschaeftigen uns mit manchen spirituell
philosophischen Lehren wie Taoismus und Buddhismus. Die sind dann schon recht
relevant.

MARKUS: Sowas koennte man auch mal lesen, die Literatur darueber.

(Radiosprecher: Tooooor)

YORK: Tor ? Wo denn nun ? Dortmund !

KAPTAIN: Scheisse !

YORK: Werder...aber Kaiserslautern liegt ja auch hinten, von daher ist es
egal...es gibt halt 'ne Menge guter Buecher, die man da lesen kann, von Laozi
z.B. und aehnlichen.

KAPTAIN: Sind das schon wieder irgendwelche Schlitzaugen ?

YORK: Ja klar !

MARKUS: Aber Laozi kennt man !

YORK: Aber wirklich...

Sascha: Ok, any final words?

KAPTAIN: Ja, Werder, voll Scheisse, Mann ! (Gelaechter)

ALLE: Spancer bocken alle auf !

YORK: Ja, und Hauptsache Bayern gewinnt nicht, waehrend die anderen verlieren !

KAPTAIN: Und bei unserem Schlagzeuger gibt's gleich 'ne geile Feier und da
werden wir uns fast ausschliesslich die Koepfe zerballern !

Interview by Sascha Maurer, May or June 2002

==== Interview for In Extremis Radio Show & Freezine ====

 

JEAN: To begin this interview, let's talk about the Spancer history.

MARKUS: In the beginning there was only water...
KAPTAIN: Then there was fire...
YORK: First there was the firestorm, then there was the galley (laughter).
And on the galley there were SPANCER and brought doom into the holy land.
MARKUS: Well, you are the ones to talk about it. History ain't my beer.
Y (to K): Yes, why don't you tell it?
KAPTAIN: Oh, then I'm going to tell it... hm... (pause) Why don't you tell it?
I'll complete it!
YORK: I'm afraid Ingo was standing besides me when I suddenly said : "Yo!".
And he, too, said : "Yo, I'm in!" (laughter). And then we founded a doom-band.
KAPTAIN: I said "Say it", said I, "what are you saying?". Then there was water,
fire and later Markus joined in.
MARKUS: Coming up from out of the earth.
KAPTAIN: Exactly, with his firesword.
YORK: So while getting drunk that day somewhere in the city Jan stood there
as well and also said : "Yo!".
KAPTAIN: Yo! (laughter)
YORK: So the next day I phoned Kappe and he, too, said "Yo!".
KAPTAIN: Yo, man !
YORK: And so we started playing doom. That was... nearly four years ago...oh,
shit!
KAPTAIN: Really ??
MARKUS: No !?
YORK: Yeah sure, february '99.
KAPTAIN: Wow, now it's going to... going to... oh... pff...(stops talking)
MARKUS: And just one album !
YORK: Ey man, we're a doom band - doom as a lifestyle. And by the way the new
one is half finished already. And a year later we made Markus join in.
KAPTAIN: 'Cause Kappe's singing was too gay...
MARKUS: I got that rehearsal tape and thought : Ok, you can do something out
of it.
YORK: The rest is as usual - rehearsing, writing songs, recording, here and
there a gig, with Spirit Caravan, Groinchurn & Krabathor, Hard To Swallow,
Ebola (UK), Gangrena Gasosa, Inhumate. We'd also do a tour, but that's rather
difficult.
KAPTAIN: Next question !
MARKUS: Now as I wanted to say something !
YORK: What kinda bullshit are you talking here !??



JEAN: Your first and last mini-cd "Countdown to Victory" is released since 2001.
Can you present this masterpiece of doom-metal?

KAPTAIN: (after talking lots a bullshit): And now on to the question !
YORK: Yeah, talk about it - from your point of view.
KAPTAIN: Couldn't we just talk about some other cool stories? We've been in the
studio, recorded the piss, he wasn't able to sing, well, kinda like this...
MARKUS: I'm completely satisfied with the recording.
KAPTAIN: The guy who recorded it didn't know a good god damn deal about doom !
YORK: The songs are long...
KAPTAIN: Well, mini-lp, what should I say about this?
YORK: I'd say most thrash albums are of the same length. In the 80?ies there
hardly was a longer album.
KAPTAIN: Most of the people I showed the cd to were like: "What, 4 songs?!" Yes,
4 songs ! "Why, how come there's a song of 9.5 minutes ?!" And then there's
also an 11 minutes song.
MARKUS: You can see that our songs are being (emphasizing) formed in the rehearsal
room.
YORK: They develop their life.
KAPTAIN: They develop with lots a beer ! And marihuana and a well-read... (laughter)
YORK: On vocals.
KAPTAIN: Like us all ! Well-read...
MARKUS: Hm, nearly all...
KAPTAIN: Apart from Kappe, who only reads comics and metal zines. (laughter)
YORK: If he'd at least do it ! Or does he do it ?
KAPTAIN: Yes. About the development process of this interview you gotta say that
two of us are living in the same city and they both do not know where the
other one lives! And now we are here, waiting like stupid cause this silly-piss
does not appear! Standing somewhere on the street: "Heeelloo, heelloooo
??" (laughter)



JEAN: Did you compose some new stuff in order to record a brand new cd? How do
these new songs sound?

KAPTAIN: They are even... well, we really can say this here, they're even better
(laughter) than the other ones, even though those are of course really good,
too, but we take the knowledge from the other disc into the new songs that
are also composed in a better way.
YORK: Ingo, you're saying this quite nicely now, but when I'll later write
it down, it will sound like any 08/15-statement in the promo text of some
crap band! They always say the same!
KAPTAIN: Then why don't you say something next time!? (laughter)
YORK: We tried to write even longer songs...
MARKUS: But this wasn't of any matter!
YORK: This is the only thing that matters!
M (excited): Yeah, just long songs, long songs! Hm, can also be boring...
Y (emphasizing): No!
MARKUS: So?!
Y (imitating Loriot, a German comedian): But not in my case! (laughter)
But not in Spancer's case - this is the important aspect.
K (mocking): 6 minutes...
Everyone (again like Loriot): Nnnooo ! (laughter)
YORK: The new songs actually got more of everything - there's more rock, more
melody, more slow doom, it's longer, faster, slower...
MARKUS: It's just more music.
YORK: And we tuned down lower, that's very important, too!
KAPTAIN: Right.
YORK: We should do it on a weekly basis actually...



JEAN: Your musical style can be described as sludge extreme doom like a kind of
hybrid between Black Sabbath, Eyehategod & Khanate. Do you agree with this
description? What are precisely the bands that influenced your sound?

MARKUS: Yeah, this fits!
KAPTAIN: Tankard, Chris Isaac, Sade...
YORK: Tankard, Ted Nugent, Chris Isaac...
KAPTAIN: Negative Approach...
YORK: And Bohren Und Der Club Of Gore!
KAPTAIN: Bohren & Der Club Of Gore!!!
MARKUS: Neurosis.
YORK: No, we are just saying this now, and that's it!
KAPTAIN: No, I also want to say something about this!
YORK: So?
KAPTAIN: Yeah, Torfrock, for instance! (laughter. K starts singing
trucker songs)
MARKUS: Everything you like got an influence on it, just the natural way.
YORK: Let's think, what is Jan influenced by?
KAPTAIN: Jan, for instance, listens only to this...cowboy-music! (laughter) He
listens to this kinda rock... rock'n'roll high school.
YORK: Jan is primary influenced by walking through the city completely drunk
and getting nothing done. Markus is influenced by always being stressed,
Ingo is also influenced by running around drunk all day long...
KAPTAIN: And listening to cool metal!
YORK: Kappe is influenced by the fact that he completely got no clue about
life (laughter)... and I'm a completely different story...
KAPTAIN: If you'd bring in all your influences we could take our galley and set
off to Japan! (laughter) Becoming rice farmers and running around in these
knit shoes. York, how many kinds of rice are there actually?
YORK: Oh, I don't know...Japanese or in general?
KAPTAIN: Hai, Anjin-san.
YORK: I just bought the book!
KAPTAIN: I've been watching the movies like 3 times, cannot stand this what-is-he-called?
Roger Whittaker? No...(laughter)
Everyone : Hm, err?
YORK: I still knew the name yesterday!
KAPTAIN: Hm, now what is he called, damn?!
YORK: Richard Chamberlain! (everyone starts being noisy) Well, the author is
really cool, I already read two other books by him, they're brilliant!



JEAN: Is "Countdown to Victory" your one and only release (i read you recorded
a demo that never saw the light of day)? How were the reactions from media
and fans about this (these) release(s)?

MARKUS: Overwhelming !
KAPTAIN: The fans are of course... they jerk off like mosquitoes, even though
we don't have that many, but this is due to the... (looses volume and doesn't
say anything senseful anyway)
MARKUS: Yeah, that's why my address must not get published, cause otherwise this
place would be totally overcrowded!
KAPTAIN: Our singer actually lives in Braunschweig illegaly. (laughter) In France
you can know it... his name does not appear on the sign of the door bell
and that's why our second bassist does not get in cause he doesn't know
where Markus lives!
YORK: That's why he isn't here doing the interview.
KAPTAIN: Exactly, he doesn't know the house's number, or maybe he knows it, but
then he's standing there and does not know which bell button to use. See,
these are problems that make our lives difficult!
MARKUS: Heeellp...
KAPTAIN: We don't even find to each other. (laughter) That's our problem...not
the music!
YORK: I'd say as the reaction of the fans we could mention something like our
rehearsal room landlord or also my mother who said : "Well, there's not
a lot happening there"...
MARKUS: Wait for it !
YORK: The media are totaly excited, that's why we already got a fat rehearsal...err,
record deal...
KAPTAIN: Rehearsal room deal ! (laughter)
MARKUS: The reviews are pretty good.
KAPTAIN: 80% of the reviews are generally good.
MARKUS: The other 20% are not of any interest to anyone!
YORK: It's not even 20%, maybe 5 ! But of course we think about where to send
a copy. We only send promos to people who we expect to like it. (laughter)
Well, yes, we recorded a demo, that's right. But it never saw the light
of day, just a bit of dawn. By noon it was dead!
MARKUS: The recording sucked big time!
YORK: Not the recording...
MARKUS: But the mix.
YORK: Something went wrong with the mix and that's why we didn't use it any
further. We actually sent a copy to German Metal zine Legacy and got a really
bad review, but they suck anyway and got no clue of doom, haha...



JEAN: Did you often play live these last months? How was generally the experience?

Everyone : No !
KAPTAIN: The last gig was pretty good cause we'd been rehearsing quite a lot.
YORK: We hardly rehearsed at all!
KAPTAIN: Well, three weeks before (the gig) we started rehearsing from time to
time.
MARKUS: I think, it was our best gig!
YORK: It definitely was, everything went really smooth.
KAPTAIN: Generally we should play more gigs - the problem is not that we haven't
got enough songs. It's just pretty hard to get something in this area...
it might be a bit easier in the South.
YORK: It's just quite hard...
KAPTAIN: To deliver this stuff to the man...
YORK: To the woman.
KAPTAIN: And Germany is also pretty conservative when it comes to this.
YORK: Bands of our kind do very few tours, most of the time just in the US
so we can hardly play with them.
KAPTAIN: And the reactions - when there is a US band coming to Germany the reactions
are always great, but if it's someone else playing it's just a pile of shit!
The Germans also need to see everything from Americans first.
YORK: I think, it's getting a bit too serious now, don't you agree?
KAPTAIN: You could say something funny.
YORK: 1-2-3... who's got the ball? (laughter) But when we play live it totally
kicks ass! Lots of bass, high volume and a bomb warning at the city council!



JEAN: What is your agenda for the upcoming months?

YORK: We'll probably record a new demo and fish for a record deal.
KAPTAIN: Right.
MARKUS: Getting famous.
KAPTAIN: Dominate the world... by Spancer and fire and water!
MARKUS: Rich and famous!
YORK: Then we'll finally - as being planned for quite some time - create our
Spancer-version of the Wu Tang Clan, the Spancer Cooperation! And move to
Mars where there are only pink penguins running around.
KAPTAIN: Nah, that was Jupiter, I think, or Pluto...? But this would be really
cool if we could send sound from the moon to the earth. And then restructure
the moon just like the earth... no, the other way round! (laughter) Yeah,
this would be cool... recently I heard a report in the radio about the first
landings on the moon, Armstrong and the second guy who did it. When he returned
he got depressed cause he's just been the second guy, went alcoholic, his
wife left him. (laughter) When this whole stuff got up to date again he
started selling himself. Does interviews, meets the journalists only in
the expensive hotels and gets $10.000 each time.
YORK: Hey, I should do it like this, too.
KAPTAIN: We'll exactly do it this way!
MARKUS: We only play once a year, but then the real deal!
YORK: In front of the whole world!
KAPTAIN: Exactly, dominate the world!
YORK: We'll be standing on the moon and the whole world is watching. No, just
half of it as the moon can be seen only from one half of the earth at one
time... then we'll play twice a year!
KAPTAIN: It would also be cool if we had a Spancer submarine. Emerging somewhere
and bringing sound to the earth - and noone knows where it's coming from!
(laughter)
MARKUS: The Spancer mobile.



JEAN: Why did you choose SPANCER as a band name (does it come from spacer)?

KAPTAIN: Because we were always drunk at that time!
MARKUS: Didn't you have a different name in the beginning?
YORK: Nah, actually not.
MARKUS: Come on, tell it...
KAPTAIN: In the beginning we were called Spancer's Fist ! (laughter)
YORK: Nah, that wasn't a serious decision. On some flyer it said Chandler,
but this wasn't supposed to be the final name. And there's also the problem
that Dave Chandler lost a little bit of respect from my side.
MARKUS: Oh oh, now it's getting serious.
YORK: Yeah, he put Slipknot and Marilyn Manson in his playlist! (laughter)
MARKUS: Hm, if one likes it?
YORK: Yeah, but please not Dave Chandler!!! (laughter)
KAPTAIN: Generally all these invented piss-names are the same - I mean, why do
you ask this question? Cause you can't think of a meaning and that's cool!
(laughter) If we had called ourselves, pff, Dead Man Walking or some shit
like this, that's fucking used and boring!
YORK: It does not come from Spacer, cause we're not that kind of, err...
MARKUS: Nooo, you're totally not spaced out, aren't you!?
YORK: We don't do chemical drugs!
MARKUS: But the green spheres are still there.



JEAN: Let's talk about the german doom scene: Are there a lot of bands who sound
like you in your area?

KAPTAIN: Generally you can say that we're completely unique! (laughter) There's
no other sludge band in northern Germany.
YORK: Yeah, that's probably true.
KAPTAIN: We'd have heard of it. If there is: give us a call!
YORK: There a very few doom bands in northern Germany, I can just think of
Cold Embrace and a new band by ex-Grief Of God guys. But they just started
and I don't know their name. There are a couple of bands in the south and
southeast.
KAPTAIN: But these are more metal.
YORK: They play the traditional style of doom, for instance Dawn Of Winter,
Mirror Of Deception, Dreaming, Well Of Souls. There is a band kinda like
Eyehategod / Church Of Misery coming from the Cologne area, but I don't
know any more details as the guy didn't contact me though promised. Then
there's EyeHateLucy who also play extreme doom without guitar, between Grief
and Corrupted, and Weed In The Head who are rather sludgy, I think.
MARKUS: Probably there are some more bands, but you just don't hear about it.
There's only really few people knowing us, too.



JEAN: Last words are yours.

KAPTAIN: As said before, we'll drive our submarine to Pluto, I'd really like this
! (laughter)
MARKUS: Prepare for doom!
YORK: This, too!
KAPTAIN: And we'll kick out Kappe pretty soon cause he can't read any house numbers.
YORK: Right. Well, what else could we say?
MARKUS: I'd like people to read more!
YORK: I'd like this, too.
KAPTAIN: The kiddies with their playstation - I gotta take care of them later.
YORK: Yeah, they'll be your problem. And Markus is pretty selfish actually.
He wants the kids to read more so he'll have an easier job to do. However,
they're jerking off about the playstation allday long and he's got to rumble
with small, bad behaving and stupid shit-kiddies.
KAPTAIN: Shooting holes into each other's heads!
YORK: And I also need people to read as I want to publish books some day.
KAPTAIN: Oh shit, such bullshit talk! Back when we started we were totally drunk,
now he only reads books.
YORK: Nah, I also like to read when having a green bowl once in a while, but
I hardly do this in Hamburg.
MARKUS: Cause there's no grass.
YORK: There is, right in front of my window.
KAPTAIN: In Hamburg you get weed at every corner.
YORK: It's not that I wouldn't get any, I just didn't buy it.
KAPTAIN: Cause we're really poor fuck ups.
YORK: Yeah, that's true as well, but we already mentioned this in the other
interviews. It's being said a bit too often now.
MARKUS: But it's true.
YORK: Compared to the German standard, yeah.
KAPTAIN: The point is, Aldi (the cheapest German super market) sell their beer
cans for half the price now. I'll go there tomorrow and get a palette of
Karlsquell. (laughter) Yes, and we'd also like to go to France...where do
you actually live?
YORK: Henin-Beaumont.
KAPTAIN: Which postal code?
YORK: 62...
KAPTAIN: That should be in the South. That's cool, we'll go there by time!
YORK: Hm, I got some difficulties with France - don't understand the language...
KAPTAIN: I had it in school for some time.
YORK: And I'm not that much of a wine-friend.
KAPTAIN: One moment, I know someone who drank two bottles at my place!
YORK: No, I've never been drinking two bottles of wine!
KAPTAIN: Sure, or maybe 1.5 - you puked quite a lot, there are fotos!
MARKUS: Yeah, but if we can't play in our area we could go to France.
YORK: Yeah, it would be cool, but I'm afraid I have to say I'd prefer China.
I know the language better, consider the women to be more beautiful, the
land, culture, food!
KAPTAIN: Foretunately it's just you being that crazy! Well, that's it! Merci!!!

 

Interview by Jean Pazola, December 2002